DYING IN VAIN ?

Posted by: rnm44

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Of all the reasons I've ever heard for continuing to fight a war...the one that makes the least sense to me is that we need to continue to fight so that those who have already been killed will not have died in vain. I heard this through the years of Vietnam when most of the country had figured out that things were going badly, and that the war was unwinnable, but that we had to keep sending more troops over there so that the others hadn't indeed "died in vain". But...what if they did?
George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield and the other liars who sent over four thousand Americans to die in Iraq have a hell of a lot of blood on their hands, and if any of those men and women died in vain, it's because of those politicians who sent them there.
We went to Afghanistan to find Osama Bin Laden and destroy the terrorist training camps. (even though the culprits came primarily from Saudi Arabia ...the golden country that we don't discuss). The guy is dead. The Taliban is either decimated or actually in secret talks with our country. When I hear that we're there to train the Afghans to secure their own country and create a new government that is stable and not corrupt I just want to yell " It ain't gonna happen guys! " Ten years and the place is still a mess.
Dying in vain is an awful phrase. Sometimes I think it's the bottom line truth. Thirteen bodies are being prepared to be shipped home to their brokenhearted families. Tell me again what they died for?
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Jersey Joe
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Jersey Joe, October 30, 2011 - 08:02 AM
MM,

This is a such a delicate topic that I have much to say about and maybe I will and maybe I won't.

What I will say briefly at the point is that dying in vain has become an acceptable saying when you enter a conflict with a goal if you do not stick it out until the goal has been reached those soldiers lives who were lost were lost without significance.

Every soldier who died on Omaha beach or any other beach or any other battlefield died with significance.

We have veterans dying every day who were sprayed with agent orange in Viet Nam by president Kennedy and president Johnson whose lives were significant.






Jersey Joe
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Jersey Joe, October 31, 2011 - 06:25 AM
My comment is not to mean there are not times to come home. People can use the in vain argument wrongly.

I also think it wrong to minimize the phrase.

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